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Danny Martinez's avatar

The design craft is spectacular.

Not having spaces for different logins is unfortunately a deal breaker for me - it’s the thing that brought me to Arc in the first place.

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Víctor Barberà's avatar

Spaces and different logins are not the same thing.

Using different logins was provided by the Profiles feature, and it's available in Dia too.

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Rui Silva's avatar

Yes but the swift gesture to switch between profiles is very missed.

I don't want to need to handle with 2+ windows

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Víctor Barberà's avatar

Agree, I'm still using Arc :)

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Patrick Töbich's avatar

I love it so far!!

2 Features from Arc I would need and love in Dia:

1. Hiding all the distractions with Command + S -> Like in Arc, where a little animation pushes everything out of sight and just the webpage is in focus.

2. With Command T not immediately creating a new tab, I used it instead in Arc to quickly move around open tabs. Quickly typing in two letters from an open tab and instantly switching to that is one of the best features I have ever seen in a browser, especially if you have a lot of tabs open.

Please add these (for me) two core features of Arc, and I will use it as my daily driver. :)

I am very excited about Dias future!

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Karlo König's avatar

I second this. I don't see people mentioning "tab launcher" enough. I noticed how much I love it when I tried to switch to Dia.

Sidebar + tab launcher 🙏

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Jayden Jeriah Wilhelm's avatar

Absolutely

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Patrick Töbich's avatar

And by the way, the onboarding was spectacular! My girlfriend and I were stunned when we saw it for the first time.

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Keerthi Gurram's avatar

Vertical tabs are the reason why I love Arc, and I am not gonna sacrifice them to try this.

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Robert Littlewood's avatar

completely agree

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Jayden Jeriah Wilhelm's avatar

Same.

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Steve Bissett's avatar

same

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Oliver Eilhard's avatar

Sidebar tabs. Yes. Please...

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Jayden Jeriah Wilhelm's avatar

This.

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Ben's avatar

I really, really want to like Dia, but as an Arc user, I just don't think it's going to happen...at least not right now. Everything you're producing in Dia is great...definitely the way to go, but I can't see past losing those excellent features of Arc. Side tabs, Air Traffic Control, all Spaces in a single instance with quick switching of Spaces etc. I note that you'll be adding these at some point in the future, but without them for me Dia is just somewhere to occasionally play rather than use as my daily browser. I get what you're doing with appealing to mass market, and I fully support that, but for me until those previous Arc innovations exist in some form in Dia, then it's not for me. I do use Easels on Arc, but I could manage without and put the content in another app if needed - it's not really core to what makes Arc such a good fit for me. Oh, and Dia for iOS, iPadOS would be a must. Sharing spaces, pinning tabs from mobile etc....this was what finally enabled me to ditch Chrome on those devices and fully adopt Arc.

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Steve Bissett's avatar

Not having tabs on the side kills it for me.

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Jayden Jeriah Wilhelm's avatar

So true.

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Alex Watson's avatar

You make a great point about the time it takes people to adapt to a new browser. After so many revolutionary features and productivity improvements introduced with Arc, this looks like a step backwards without vertical tabs, spaces, the tab launcher etc.

The polish looks fantastic, but after Arc introduced features I didn’t know I needed, now I’m not sure I could go back to a browser without them.

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Jayden Jeriah Wilhelm's avatar

I feel the same way.

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Jacob Jolibois's avatar

Fully switched to Dia about a week ago. Overall, I like the direction it's heading.

I know y'all are already thinking about this but there are a couple things that are so central to my workflow that I've considered switching back to Arc:

- Please let me save pages from Arc Search to a Dia profile 🥲 No lie, I pin like 5-10 websites a day using this and right now I keep having to open Arc and copy the links over to Dia once I'm back at my laptop

- Cmd+S to hide the chrome is desperately missed - please please please bring this to Dia!

- A better Spaces/Profiles switcher that doesn't open a new window (super annoying). Maybe, in the spirit of Arc, allow us to swipe up/down while hovering over the tab bar to switch the space quickly? Or at the very least, switch the profile without opening a new window.

And a few quality-of-life improvements:

- PiP only works if I switch tabs, not when I switch desktops

- Tab renaming would be dope

- Would be great to be able to right click on bookmark button to select a folder instead of having to bookmark a page, open a new tab to make the bookmark bar appear and then drag the new bookmark to the correct folder.

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Eli's avatar

Love the focus on making things easy for the average user—super important! But if you want to win back the hearts (and tabs) of your early adopters, side tabs and robust spaces/profiles are a must. For me, splitting work and personal browsing with separate spaces and profiles is non-negotiable—keeps my passwords and chaos neatly divided. I’m not going back to juggling two browsers, no matter how shiny the new one is. Looking forward to seeing how Dia tackles this!

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Jayden Jeriah Wilhelm's avatar

Totally.

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Aleks's avatar

I need spaces to switch from Arc, I beg of you. Genuinely don't know how I would function on the internet anymore without Spaces that I can swipe through and switch between insanely easily, and having bookmarks per Spaces.

I read in a release note that only 5% of DAU of Arc use Spaces, I understand it's hard to prioritize, but like it can be up to users whether to use it or not? Please?? :')

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Sergio Schuler's avatar

Vertical tabs and split screen is what I am waiting for.

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matthew's avatar

Split screen works in Dia too!

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Sergio Schuler's avatar

I could not find how 😂

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Robert Littlewood's avatar

Guys I love how you work and what your mission is. Arc was a fundamental gamechanger for my browsing experience albeit requiring some iterations (e.g. cmd+hover over link to summarise page links needed improving), but the main USPs I share with friends when trying to bring them over to Arc from Chrome are completely disregarded with Dia!?😢😱

How did you come to the decision to remove:

1) Swipe between profiles (same window)

2) Sidebars and tile favourites??

These are SO much more intuitive and storing tabs at the top is receding to the norms of all other browsers!

Honestly without these 2 key features I just cannot move over to Dia from Arc

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Dekaf's avatar

Vertical tabs please 😭

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Jon Cousins's avatar

I wish you luck, and you're obviously a very thoughtful company. I have to say, though, that I clicked on and watched all four short videos in this post, and have zero idea what they're explaining. Sorry.

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Mario Miletta's avatar

Dia looks fantastic! What about Arc Search on mobile?

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Michael Parekh's avatar

Helpful start. Can you provide clearer examples of key functions like ‘mentions’, ‘skills’ etc. Not clear in first read of post. Thanks.

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Svetimir Ignatov's avatar

This is giving me hope. I think every Arc fan will be ready to make the switch if you add:

- Sidebar + Favorites + Pinned tabs + Folders

- Tab Renaming

- Spaces / Profiles

- Link Routing

- Tab Launcher

Where Arc shined was giving structure to browsing the web. The approach to handling websites as apps was spot on. If you combine the AI of Dia with the structure of Arc you'll have the most complete and modern take on the internet. At least in my opinion.

Please add these features, so that the community can once again be 100% behind your back! We love you guys!

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